Hauptli’s Lecture Supplement on Plato’s
Republic
Part A[1]
Copyright © 2021 Bruce W. Hauptli
[BOOK I]
1. Book I—A
preliminary overview [327-354c]:
The First Book of the
Republic provides an introduction to
the concerns, themes, and theses of the text.
Some scholars contend that it was written earlier than the remainder of
the text and that it may have been intended as a “stand-alone” dialogue.
Clearly, it more resembles the earlier Platonic dialogues than does the
remainder of the text. Note that
while the theses advanced in this First Book are not correct (according to
Plato), they are also not wholly wrong either.
For Plato, clearly, you must be right
for the right reasons.
The views expressed here (the importance of old age, wealth, giving
individuals their due, and even advantage) are all important—but they must be
rightly construed! The remainder of
the work endeavors to provide the arguments for what Plato considers to be the
right version of the themes and theses.
327c Pol: “Do you see how many we
are?” “Could you persuade men who
do not listen? The passage is there
to remind us of the nature of Socratic dialectic and of its prerequisites.
Cephalus:
Old Age, Wealth, and Justice:
329c Cephalus cites Sophocles:
“Old age and freedom from the many savage and tyrannical masters.”
The picture offered here is one of freedom from the
tyranny of the appetites (sexual
appetite is the specific example) and
the advantage of wealth for justice.
As is the case for most of the theses of the First Book, we must
interpret this discussion carefully.
It is not that Plato’s Socrates believes that a life of sexual abstinence
is the best, but that the advantage which old age brings is that it can
facilitate the rational control of the appetites.
It is this thesis, which he is ultimately in favor of, but this is to
jump ahead of ourselves—Cephalus’ point, in other words, needs to be interpreted
(as it stands it is both right and wrong, and without the context of the overall
understanding of what justice is, the rightness and wrongness can not be
properly disentangled.
-331a Cephalus: “...the
man who knows he has not sinned has a sweet and good hope as his constant
companion.”
331b Cephalus maintains that the
advantage of wealth is that it is
conducive to justice.
-he believes that justice amounts
to paying one’s debts.
--331c Soc:
Weapon example!
The example shows that there is something wrong with this
characterization of justice.
Cephalus leaves the discussion, and his son Polemarchus takes over.
Polemarchus (Cephalus’ son)
and Justice:
331e Pol: Justice amounts to
giving to each what is
owed to him (citing the poet Simonides).
-332b Soc: What is “due” one’s
enemies?
-Pol:
Harm is what is owed them—it is
their “due.”
-332c Soc: Is ‘due’ being used
correctly here?
Practitioners of a
craft[2]
like medicine give others what is
their due,” so what do practitioners of justice do—wherein lies their
usefulness?
-332d The practice of justice
benefits one’s friends and harms one’s enemies.
--Soc: “benefit in what sense?”
-333 Pol: Justice is beneficial
in contracting situations—“in dealings between people.”
--Justice is useful in keeping
possessions safe when they are not in
use (it is useless when they are in use—in such cases other arts are more to the
point).
--333e Soc: Isn’t the skilled
boxer also the one most skilled in defending against blows?
--334a The man most capable of
guarding possessions will be the one most capable of stealing them?
And, thus, the just man is a kind of thief?
-334b Polemarchus is puzzled—but
keeps to his definition.
-334c Soc:
Can one be mistaken
about who one’s friends and enemies are?
In such a situation, the definition means that the “just” man might
merely be helping those whom he believes (falsely) to be his friends....
--Note
that this point presages an important move in the criticism of Thrasymachus’
orientation at 339c below!
-335a Pol: justice amounts to
benefiting the friend who is good and harming the enemy who is bad.
335b Soc:
“Is
it the role of the just man to harm anyone at all?”
-Pol: Yes—the enemies
who are bad!
-Soc: Do horses, dogs, etc.,
become better or worse when harmed?
--335b-e Soc:
Justice and harming human
excellence
[arête][3]—music
instructors and riding-masters: can they by the practice of their crafts make
men unmusical and non-horsemen?
“Can the just, by the practice of justice, make men unjust?”
--Critical
Comment: Note that the definition that is being critiqued here is both right
and wrong. While the “proper ruler”
is not supposed to “harm human excellence,”
the ruling philosopher-kings and
auxiliaries will have to defend the state (at least against enemies from the
outside, and probably from enemies from within),
and the idea that such rulers and
soldiers will not harm others is, surely, ludicrous.
Thus later in the Republic
Plato’s Socrates has the rulers behaving more as the earlier “definitions”
indicate! With, perhaps, a
paternalistic qualification.
--Plato’s view here is
not the view of the age.
In his “Does Piety Pay?
Socrates and Plato on Prayer and Sacrifice,” Mark McPherran maintains that:
“first, it seems unlikely that Socrates’ disbelief [in the
Euthyphro] in divine enmity and
injustice per se would put him at risk of disbelief in the civic gods….Thanks to
their exposure to the works of Hesiod, Sophocles, and Aeschylus, most Athenians
were acquainted with affirmations of the gods’ justice, and we hear of no one
demurring at these expressions….It is, rather, with his rejection of the
negative side of lex talionis (that
is, the “return of an evil for an evil” [part of this doctrine which holds that
we should return a good for a good, a loss for a loss, and an evil for an
evil]), and some of the propitiatory
do ut des [loosely:
give as you receive] aspects of cult
that Socrates’ doctrine of divine justice seems to present a threat to the civic
gods and cult of Athens.”[4]
Clearly Plato’s Socrates is calling for a significant change in the
conception of justice given what he says here!
Thrasymachus and
Justice:
336a Thr: “If you really want to
know...stop scoring points....”
-Rhetoric
vs. philosophy.
Thrasymachus was a noted sophist—a teacher of rhetoric and oratory.
338c Thr: Justice (or the
Right) amounts to the
advantage of the
stronger.
Soc: Before I praise this
definition, I must understand your meaning.
Thr: “Each government makes laws
to its own advantage...”
-339c Soc: Are the rulers in all
cities infallible?
--339e Where the rulers are wrong
about what is in their interests, if the subjects do what the rulers tell them
to do, they will be doing what is to the
disadvantage of the stronger!
--340c Clitophon breaks in to try
to “rescue” Thrasymachus by maintaining that what he must have meant was
“whatever the stronger believes to be
in his interest.”
--341 c Thr: “Do you think I’d
call someone who is in error stronger at the very moment time he errs?
“I
mean the ruler in the most precise sense.”
-341c Soc: Physician
qua[5]
Physician (vs. the
money-maker).
--341c-342d -Soc: What does the
physician (in the precise sense) aim at?
Medicine seeks the health of
the patient, horse-breeding the good
of horses, etc. (342d) “Surely,
then, no doctor, insofar as he is a doctor, seeks or orders what is advantageous
to himself, but to his patient.”
--342e “...no one in any position
of rule, insofar as he is a ruler, seeks or orders what is advantageous to
himself, but what is advantageous to his subjects....”
--Philosophical
Aside: Is Plato’s Socrates describing politicians as they were then (or are
now), or is he describing them as they ought to be?
-343b Thr:
What of shepherds?
You don’t understand at all Socrates!
--Thrasymachus
maintains that Plato’s Socrates not only misunderstands the
nature of justice, but also misunderstands its
value. His discussion
introduces the
second of the two major problems
that Plato would address in the Republic: the “question” of the
value of justice (“What is justice
good for, and how “good” is it?”).
The first question, of course, is “What is justice?”
It is this question that we have been looking at so far, and of course,
it must be answered before the second one may be addressed properly.
--343d-344c
Thr: “A
just man always gets less than an unjust one....A person of great
power
outdoes[6]
everyone else.” When people
denounce wrong it is because they are afraid of
suffering wrong, not of
doing it.
---345 Soc: I believe that
injustice is not more profitable, but
let’s examine the claim again.
-345d Soc: let us look at your idea carefully Thrasymachus—the shepherd qua shepherd (rather than money-maker). Wage-earning is a different art/skill from the doctor’s, ship captain’s, and shepherd’s. We will need to discuss how many crafts are necessary for the state....
--346e “...no craft or rule
provides its own advantage, but, as we’ve been saying for some time, it provides
and orders for its subject and aims at its advantage, that of the weaker, not of
the stronger.”
--347b-c No one will
willingly want to rule and we will have to compel the good man to do so.... “Now,
the greatest punishment, if one isn’t willing to rule, is to be ruled by someone
worse than oneself. And I think
that it’s fear of this that makes decent people rule when they do.”
Cf., 420a & 465e!
--Criticism:
Plato’s discussion wants us to commit to a very particular version of “the
principle of specialization:” he is going to talk as if individuals should have
only one craft, trade, technē—that
the physician, ruler, shepherd qua
physician, ruler, shepherd has only one
trade. Moreover, as we shall
see, the trade one has is to be a life-time trade.
But, how many “jobs,” do you have?
Is “wage-earning even a craft, trade or
technē?
And is the emphasis upon such all-encompassing specialization warranted?
The physician is, and surely was at Plato’s time, a physician, a husband,
a father, a wage-earner, a citizen, etc!
347e
Which
profits one most—justice or
injustice?
Which is the “way” followed by those who are proper practitioners of the
“art of life?”
-Socrates and Thrasymachus agree
that there is such a craft (as justice), but they disagree over what happiness
is (Thrasymachus maintains that it is “getting more than your fair share of what
are commonly called the good things in life [knowledge,
power, happiness]), and Socrates shows him that the unjust man actually
doesn’t resemble the “craftsman” in any of these facets—those who truly have
knowledge, power, and happiness do not resemble the unjust man.
-349b Unjust men
endeavor to “outdo” or “overreach”
others—they try to have “more than their fair share.”
--In this do they resemble men
who know or men who don’t? Do
experts behave thusly?
--350d Thrasymachus blushes.
-351-352 Injustice implants hate
and dissension, and an “unjust unit” becomes hostile to itself!
--352 “...injustice has
the power, first, to make whatever it arises in—whether it is a city, a family,
an army, or anything else—incapable of achieving anything as a unit, because of
the civil wars and differences it creates, and, second, it makes that unit an
enemy to itself....” Injustice
causes a “civil war” within the soul [351d].
-352d
Who is
happier: the just or the unjust man?
--352e-353e Things have
functions or
excellences [arête]—carving
knives, pruning knives, etc. The
soul’s function is that of “taking care of things,” ruling,” and “living.”
(353e): “...a bad soul rules and takes care of things badly and a good
soul does all these things well.”
The good soul, in effect, “lives well.”
Can the unjust man live well?
The just man is happy and “profits” from his justice, the unjust man is
miserable.
354b “I seem to have
behaved like a glutton, snatching at every dish that passes and tasting it
before properly savoring its predecessor.
Before finding the answer to our first inquiry about what justice is, I
let go and turned to investigate whether it is a kind of vice and ignorance or a
kind of wisdom and virtue. Then an
argument came up about injustice being more profitable than justice, and I
couldn’t refrain from abandoning the previous one and following up on that.
Hence the result of the discussion, as far as I’m concerned, is that I
know nothing, for when I don’t know what justice is, I’ll hardly know whether it
is a kind of virtue or not, or whether a person who has it is happy or unhappy.”
[BOOK II]
2. The challenges
of Glaucon and Adeimantus [357a-368c]:
Socrates is not the only one who is dissatisfied with what
he has said to Thrasymachus. In
this passage two figures step in to restate Thrasymachus’ objections more
carefully and to present Plato’s Socrates with the two central challenges that
he will endeavor to meet in the remainder of the book.
Plato chooses his two brothers,
Glaucon and Adeimantus, for this role.
While neither is of the same opinion as Thrasymachus, each feels that a
better refutation of his view is called for.
They press Socrates for such a response.
Glaucon points out (357a-358) that there are both
extrinsic and
intrinsic goods, and he asks which
Socrates thinks justice is.[7]
Plato’s Socrates responds that he believes that justice is both
intrinsically and extrinsically good, and Glaucon challenges him to show that it
is intrinsically valuable (claiming that most people would consider justice to
be [at most] extrinsically valuable).
Glaucon imagines two individuals in possession of the magical rings of
Gyges (359d) (rings which render one invisible and immune to prosecution for
any wrong-doing)—one a just individual and the other an unjust individual.
He contends that many would think the just individual a fool if she or he
didn’t take advantage of the ring’s powers.
Glaucon asks Plato’s Socrates to posit two ideal types of individuals
(the perfectly just individual who reaps no extrinsic rewards from his justice,
and the perfectly unjust person who reaps every imaginable extrinsic reward) and
to convince us that the intrinsic rewards of justice are preferable (360e-361d).
Adeimantus maintains that while
justice may pay, injustice is said to pay better (363a).
That is, according to him people are interested only in the reputation
for justice. He demands that
Plato’s Socrates “...not...give us a merely theoretical proof that justice is
better than injustice, but tell us what
effect each has in and by itself, the one for good, the other for evil, whether
or not it be hidden from gods and men” [367d-e].
357b
Glaucon:
three types of good:
instrumental,
intrinsic, and
both.
-358e Many say justice
is good for its consequences. But
they really believe that injustice is actually better, though they all fear
being wronged:
--People
believe it is fine to do wrong but they fear being wronged and, thus, they make
“compacts” to neither do nor suffer wrong.
Imagine two individuals with Gyges’ rings.
--360d “Every man believes that
injustice is much more profitable to himself than justice, and any exponent of
this argument will say that he is right.
The man who did not wish to do wrong with that opportunity, and did not
touch other people’s property, would be thought by those who knew it to be very
foolish and miserable.”
--360e
Imagine two “ideal types:” strip the unjust man of all the negative
consequences and “visit” them upon the just man, and, then, show that justice is
indeed intrinsically valuable.
362d
Adeimantus: while justice may pay,
injustice is said to pay better.
People are interested only in the reputation for justice.
-When justice is praised it is
not justice itself that is recommended but, rather, the reputation for it!
-We need to be shown what harm
comes of being unjust and what good comes from being just.
-367d-e
Show us “in what way
does its [justice’s] very possession benefit a man and injustice harm him?”
“Do not...give us a merely theoretical proof that justice is better than
injustice, but tell us what effect each
has in and by itself, the one for good, the other for evil, whether or not it be
hidden from gods and men.”
3. Socrates begins
developing the ideas behind the ideal state [368d-373e]:
Plato’s Socrates takes up these challenges by looking for
justice in the state[8]
where it may be more readily seen for what it is.
He contends that once we recognize it there, we will be able to recognize
it within individuals. In this
section he begins to develop the initial ideas behind an ideally just state, or
“Kallipolis.”[9]
Of special import will be his claims that individuals are not
self-sufficient, and that a “division of labor” is called for.
He will also emphasize the importance of each individual fulfilling the
role or task for which she or he is most naturally suited.
As this idea gets developed in later sections of the text, it becomes one
of the central notions of the work.
We can call this idea his “Principle of
Specialization”—that is, he claims that because a division of labor is
necessary, each individual should tend to that trade (or craft) for which she or
he is best suited.
368c Socrates begins his reply to
these continuations of Thrasymachus’ argument by developing an ideal state.
-368e
In the State and in the
individual—justice is the same.
--Is it?
For us doesn’t justice, primarily (exclusively?) obtain between and among
individuals? Does it make sense to
talk about justice within an
individual?
-369b
Origin of the State: no individual is
self-sufficient.
--369b “...we aren’t all born
alike, but each of us differs somewhat in nature from the others, one being
suited to one task, another for another.”
His
Division of Labor Thesis
here yields, one page lager, a
Principle of
Specialization—[370b] each individual should do that [single] task
for which she or he is best suited.
This thesis is not [simply] an economic thesis!
--Note
the social character of dialectic.
When he says that we are not self-sufficient, he is not thinking simply
of biology or economics—or so I contend.
The dialectical process that is to yield knowledge is a social process,
and so if we are to achieve knowledge, we must “be” social!
--Note:
while he is talking about “aptness,” this leads (immediately) to
“singularity”—that is, to the view that each person has
one talent which she or he is
“apt” for, and to the conclusion that one must “do” that job.
If individuals are
“apt” for more than one job, or if
they can simultaneously perform several, then we need to look carefully at what
follows. Moreover, if there is
no craft of ruling, then the argument here is going to break down.
-370d The size of state and
number of crafts grows as we think of the sorts of endeavors necessary—farmers
will not make their own plows, tools, clothes, or shoes.
-372e-373c “It isn’t merely the
origin of a city that we’re considering, it seems, but the origin of
a
luxurious city.
And that may not be a bad idea, for by examining it, we might very well
see how justice and injustice grow up in cities.”
Indeed, it is necessary to discuss a luxurious city if we are to deal
with Glaucon’s and Adeimantus’ points—if we are to contrast the just and unjust
lives. So he “enlarges” the city
adding many more “crafts.”
--372a
Plato’s Socrates
recognizes that a “minimalistic” state won’t satisfy most people (who will want
“...couches, tables and other furniture...all sorts of delicacies, perfumed
oils, incense, prostitutes, and pastries”).
As the sequel will make clear, he thinks that (a) the non-luxurious
city is better, and (b)
there are reasons why he believes that
some [or, better, most] people will not be “satisfied” with the
non-luxurious city. The
challenge posed by Adeimantus helps explain why he allows for more than the
“necessary” crafts (why he develops a luxurious city): if he is to show what
justice is and that it is intrinsically valuable, he must allow for both justice
and injustice to arise (and must explain why the latter arises).
--372b-374a “We must no longer
provide them only with the necessities we mentioned at first, houses and clothes
and shoes, but we must call in painting and embroidery; we must acquire gold and
ivory and all such things....That healthy community is no longer adequate, but
it must be swollen in bulk and filled with a multitude of things which are no
longer necessities, as, for example, all kinds of hunters and artists....”
The city is increased in size and filled with a multitude of things that
go beyond what is necessary for a city.
Note the weird list of added trades at 373a!
-374c Again he notes the need for
each individual to stick to a single
craft (his “principle of specialization”).
4. The need for
guardians—to protect our valuables and ourselves [374-376d]:
The lack of
self-sufficiency thesis and the
principle of specialization, when coupled with the
development of a luxurious city-state,
make it clear a very important role which will need to be fulfilled is that of
the “guardians.” Without
appropriate guardians, the ideally just state will be impossible.
While, of course, each role is
important, Plato’s Socrates will focus upon the guardians (and rulers) as it is
this role that has not been properly defined and fulfilled in extant states.
He believes that the sort of role and knowledge necessary for farmers,
iron workers, potters, shoemakers, shepherds, etc., is already well-known and
does not require investigation or discussion.
The fact that we don’t have just states is to be explained by the fact
that the guardians and rulers are not rightly trained (and, in fact, not rightly
characterized). Thus, in this
section, he begins to focus upon what those who would fulfill this task must be
like. The remainder of this book
will largely focus upon this “class” within the state.
373e-374a The need for
guardians—to protect the state:
“then the city must be further enlarged, and not just by a small number, either,
but by a whole army….”
-374e “...to the degree that the
work of the guardians is most important, it requires the most freedom from other
things and the greatest skill and devotion.”
-375b-c The guardians must have a
spirited temperament
but also
be gentle
to their people.
--375e-376c
Guard dog analogy: “Then do you
think that our future guardian, besides being
spirited,[10]
must also be by nature philosophical?....When a dog sees someone it doesn’t
know, it gets angry before anything bad happens to it.
But when it knows someone, it welcomes him, even if it has never received
anything good from him....In what way philosophical?....Because it judges
anything it sees to be either a friend or an enemy, on no other basis than that
it knows the one and doesn’t know the other.”
Thus, the guardians must have a
philosophic element in their nature—they
must know friend from foe!
We must, then, be concerned with the sort of education they will have.
Explain why it is the guardians’ education he is concerned with—if
something is wrong with the cobblers’ education, is it as serious as if the
guardians are miseducated?
--The
Greek term thymos (or thumos) is used
to indicate “spiritedness.” It is a
passion or emotion rather than an appetite.
It carries connotations which are not found in any clear English term:
for the Greeks of Plato’s time (and before), it carries connotations of
bravery, the
urge for glory, and of
a spirited competitor.
For Plato the trait is both important and dangerous.
The soul which is too filled with it can not be a good one!
5. Stories and the
early education of the guardians [376e-412b]:
In this section, Plato’s Socrates deals with
the early phases of the education of the
guardians (it is also the early education of all the citizens) and the sorts
of stories and music which will be allowed in the state.
The discussion emphasizes that:
378e
the young cannot
distinguish what is allegorical from what is not....That may be the
reason why it is most important that the first stories they hear should be well
told and dispose them to virtue.
Cf., 389b and 459d.
In other words,
the
censorship which he calls for is to
have a moral purpose, and it
is necessary given the character of the young and of some of the individuals
throughout their lives. The
educational program which he outlines will train both the guardians’ minds and
their bodies, and it will aim to establish a harmony in their characters—it will
address both their “spirited” and their “wisdom-living” parts (411e).
The discussion from about
376e-411d may read rather quickly, though several of the passages discussing
censorship repay careful consideration.
377 What of stories?
-377b-c “...we must first of
all...control the story tellers.
Whatever noble story they compose we shall select, but a bad one we must reject.
Then we shall persuade nurses and mothers to tell their children those we
have selected and by those stories to fashion their minds far more than they can
shape their bodies by handling them.”
-378e
“The young cannot distinguish what is
allegorical from what is not, and the beliefs they acquire at that age are hard
to expunge and usually remain unchanged.
That may be the reason why it is most important that the first stories
they hear should be well told and dispose them to virtue.”
-382b
While speaking of the censorship of
stories, music, and so forth, Plato’s Socrates also speaks at length about the
importance of telling the truth: “...no one is willing to tell falsehoods to the
most important part of himself about the most important things, but of all
places he is most afraid to have falsehood here.
The tension between the importance of truth and the need for paternalism
will arise at a number of points, and we will have to address it ultimately!
[BOOK III]
The discussion of the early education continues with a
discussion of poetry, rhythm, love between boys and older men, and physical
training. Most of this discussion
(from 376 to 411d) may we skipped or “read with less care.”
Important, however, are the following passages:
389b “...truth must also be
highly esteemed....though [untruth is] useful to men as a kind of medicine,
clearly we must allow physicians to use it, but not private citizens....So it is
fitting for the rulers, if for anyone, to use lies for the good of the city
because of certain actions of the enemy or of citizens, but everyone else must
keep away from them.
For a private citizen to lie to such
rulers is wrong or worse than for a sick man to lie to his physician or an
athlete to his trainer about his physical condition, or for a sailor not to tell
the navigator the truth about the condition of the ship or how he himself or a
fellow sailor is behaving.”
-Cf.,
378e and 459d.
-In his “The Ethicist” column in
The New York Times Magazine, Randy
Cohen maintains that: “informed consent, central to the doctor patient
relationship, requires honest doctors.
A patient…can agree to a course of treatment with only a real
understanding of it—impossible if a doctor simply makes things up.”[11]
394e Stories often mis-portray
the gods, they are fictions, they employ images and improper musical modes, they
are used to scare and seduce. At
best, for Plato, art imitates life,
and he wonders whether the guardians should be imitative.
-400b Some forms of musical
measure are suited to meanness and insolence, or madness and others to the
opposite....
401d “Are these not the reasons,
Glaucon, I said, why nurture in the arts is most important, because their rhythm
and harmony permeate the inner part of the soul, bringing graciousness to it,
and make the strongest impression, making a man gracious if he has the right
kind of upbringing; if he has not, the opposite is true.
The man who has been properly nurtured in this area will be keenly aware
of things which are neglected, things not beautifully made by art or nature.
He will rightly resent them, he will praise beautiful things, rejoice in
them, receive them into his soul, be nurtured by them and become both good and
beautiful in character. He will
rightly object to what is ugly and hate it while still young before he can grasp
the reason, and when reason comes he who has been reared thus will welcome it
and easily recognize it because of its kinship with himself.
Yes, he said, I agree those are the reasons for education in the arts.”
-His point is that virtuous
habits are important in the early life for two reasons: (a) children are not yet
capable of rational thought and can not direct their actions according to the
dictates of reason; (b) they will find it easier to follow the dictates of
reason if they are already predisposed in that direction by their habits (it
would be more difficult on them if their habits tended to seduce their behavior
in a direction reason would not lead].
402d-403d He offers a brief
discussion of the love of men for boys and how sexual pleasure can be either
good for the psyche or bad for it.
403d He discusses the education
of the guardians must include physical training.
404e No Sicilian cookery or
Athenian confectionery—they may promote disharmony in the same manner as bad
art.
409a For one to be a sound judge
one must be good and honorable and one’s training must have been carefully
attended to.
-409b “...good people, when
young, appear simple-minded and easily deceived, because they do not have within
themselves any model of evil feelings.”
Good judges will be old rather than young.
They will recognize injustice not from personal experience but, rather,
from their studies!
410d To overemphasize either mental or physical training
would be a mistake—an unbalanced individual is the result.
The spirited part of a person’s soul must be properly crafted so that
neither harshness nor meanness but, rather, courage results.
-411e “It seems then that a god
has given men these two means, artistic and physical education, to deal with
these two parts of themselves, not
the body and the soul except incidentally but
the spirited and the wisdom-loving parts,
in order that these be in harmony with each other, each being stretched and
relaxed to the proper point.”
6. Rulers,
Auxiliaries, the noble fiction, and the Guard Dog Problem [412c-427d]:
In this section Plato’s Socrates distinguishes the overall
group of guardians into two classes: the
auxiliaries
and the
rulers.
He also deals with several problems that both his characterization of
these classes and his educational program for them seem to pose.
412e “...we must choose from
among our guardians those men who, upon examination, seem most of all to believe
throughout their lives that they must eagerly pursue eagerly what is
advantageous to the city and be wholly unwilling to do the opposite.”
-Plato’s Socrates is clearly
saying that in addition to having the
wisdom-loving and spirited parts of their souls well-trained, the rulers of his
ideal state are to have a very highly developed sense of
social concern (throughout their
lives, he says, they are to be tested to see that they don’t put their own
advantage above that of the state).
-413a-e While no person would
surrender
true belief
willingly, one may be robbed of such
belief by theft,
violence, or
bewitchment.
One may be persuaded away from the truth here or one may forget it.
So, what we are looking for is the
best of the best—these will be our rulers.
--Here we must distinguish
between and discuss the relative merits of
true belief and
knowledge—what makes the latter
preferable to the former (according to Plato)?
-414b “...isn’t it truly most
correct to call these people complete
guardians, since they will guard against external enemies and internal
friends, so that one will lack the power and the other the desire to harm the
city? The young people we’ve
hitherto called guardians we’ll now call
auxiliaries and supporters of the guardians’ convictions.”
In effect, the educational process which Plato’s Socrates outlines is
supposed to develop individuals who have been properly educated (wisdom and high
spirit), who care for the state rather than for themselves (simply).
Their appetites, of course, will be controlled.
In short, these individuals will have a
harmony.
But will they want to rule, and will the other citizens accept them as
rulers?
The noble fiction:
-415 Gold, Silver, Iron & Bronze:
the why of this must be
discussed—does the telling of the story amount to a contradiction for Plato?
Can an “ideal” [just] state be
founded upon a lie? Is the
noble fiction a lie?
-Think about the following line
of argument regarding the “myth of the metals.”
Given his definition of justice, such “lying” is just because:
--justice is doing one’s job,
--the ruler’s job is maintaining
the right social order,
--“the myth of the metals” is
necessary for social order,
--therefore telling the “myth” is
just—telling it is the right thing to do.
The guard dog problem:
416 “The most terrible and most
shameful thing of all is for a shepherd to rear dogs as auxiliaries to help with
his flocks in such a way that through licentiousness, hunger, or some other bad
trait of character, they do evil to the sheep and become like wolves instead of
dogs.”
-416b “Isn’t it necessary...to
guard in every way against our auxiliaries doing anything like that to the
citizens because they are stronger, therefore becoming savage masters instead of
kindly allies?”
-416b-417b “And wouldn’t a really
good education endow them with the greatest caution in this regard?
But surely they have had an education like that.
Perhaps we shouldn’t assert this
dogmatically, Glaucon. What we
can assert in what we were saying just now, that they must have the right
education, whatever it is, if they are to have what will most make them gentle
to one another and to those they are guarding.
....Now, someone
with some understanding might say that,
besides this education, they must also have the kind of housing and other
property what will neither prevent them from being the best guardians nor
encourage them to do evil to the other citizens.”
Thus, Plato’s Socrates places a number of “restrictions” upon their
“life-style:”
--no material wealth,
--a life where all is shared in
common,
--a “Spartan” existence (explain
“Sparta” and contrast Plato’s ideal state with the Spartan one).
--Relevant
Consideration: it could well be suggested that the “restrictions” which
Plato’s Socrates places upon the life-style of the guardians may best be
considered as a mechanism for instituting the continuing testing process which
these individuals must undergo as we check to see that they always care for the
good of the state (rather than for their own good)—cf.,
412e.
[Book IV]
The discussion continues with an objection from Adeimantus
(that the rulers will not be happy), and that wealth and poverty can corrupt the
rulers. It continues as Plato
uncovers the “four virtues” in his “ideal state:” wisdom, civic courage,
moderation, and justice. This then
leads to a discussion of justice in the individual.
The Book concludes with a discussion of the preferability of the just and
unjust lives.
419-427d
Adeimantus’ objection:
Adeimantus objects that Plato’s Socrates is not making the
rulers of the city happy, since he is depriving them of the requirements for a
good life (wealth, children, etc.).
Plato’s Socrates replies that this isn’t really true, they are being provided
with what is really valuable, rather
than with the things people believe to be valuable.
419 “...you aren’t making
these men very happy and...it’s their own fault....The city really belongs to
them, yet they derive no good from it.
Others own land, build fine houses, acquire furnishings to go along with
them, make their own private sacrifices to the gods, entertain guests, and also,
of course, possess...gold and silver and all the things that are thought to
belong to people who are blessedly happy.
But one well say that your guardians are simply settled in the city like
mercenaries and that all they do is watch over it.”
420b “...it
wouldn’t be surprising if these people were very happiest just as they are,
but...in establishing our city, we aren’t aiming to make any one group
outstandingly happy but to make the whole city so, as far as possible.
We thought that we’d find justice most easily in such a city, and
injustice, by contrast, in one that is governed worst and that, by observing
both cities, we’d be able to judge the question we’ve been inquiring about for
so long.”
--Note:
given the challenges offered by Glaucon and Adeimantus (as well as
Thrasymachus), Plato’s Socrates can not simply try to make the rulers wealthy,
wise, and happy. He must show how
their possession of justice is good
independent of whatever extrinsic rewards it offers.
For this reason, amongst others, he can not simply set out to provide
them with either advantage or happiness.
He must show what justice is and show that it is
intrinsically valuable.
Thus, in fact (as the sequel will show), he does believe that these
individuals are “outstandingly happy,” but he must show what their happiness
consists in, and why all should want it (if they can attain it).
--Here we should reflect
again on the passage at 347b regarding Plato’s Socrates’ response to the
question: “Why rule if
one doesn’t benefit [in the sense that Thrasymachus intends the word]?”
Of course the response is that one does it because one
cares for the city and one’s fellow
citizens, and because one would suffer if a less qualified individual rules.
In short, the wise will rule because it is their
responsibility to do so.
Cf., 465 & 519d-e.
421d-e Both wealth and poverty
will lead the guardians and the state astray.
424b “...those in charge must
cling to education and see that it
isn’t corrupted without their noticing it, guarding it against everything.
Above all, they must guard as carefully as they can against any
innovation in music and poetry or in physical training that is counter to the
established order.”
-The main charge for the
rulers will be to watch over the educational and nurturing processes of the
state.
The Four Virtues in
the City [427e-434]:
In this section of the text, Plato’s Socrates characterizes
the four main virtues which the ideal state exemplifies.
He is introducing us to the wisdom, courage (or bravery), moderation, and
justice which are essential if a state is to be well-ordered.
The next section will introduce the same concepts within the soul.
Later discussions clarify, elaborate upon, and further develop the ideas
introduced here. With these two
sections we have the initial answer to the two main questions of the
Republic—both the nature and the
value of justice have been sketched.
427e Plato’s Socrates claims that
the ideal state sketched so far has four important virtues: wisdom, bravery,
moderation, and justice:
-428c
Wisdom: “Is it because of the
knowledge possessed by its carpenters, then, that the city is to be called wise
and sound in judgment?”
--429 “...a whole city
established according to nature would be wise because of the smallest class and
part in it, namely, the governing or ruling one.
And to this class which seems to be by nature the smallest, belongs a
share of the knowledge that alone among all the other kinds of knowledge is to
be called wisdom.”
--Question:
Why does he say that this class will be, “by nature” the “smallest
one?” Is his claim here a
“logical” or an “empirical” one?
While, it may seem natural within the state that there be fewer “rulers” than
“auxiliaries” or “workers,” why should this be so in the ideal state?
Suppose all the “work” (including the protection work) could be done by
slaves or machines, could everyone (else), then, be rulers?
Note, also that when we speak, in the next section, about the individual,
we can again ask “Why is this “part” of the soul the “smallest?”
-429b
Civic Courage and the soldiers (or auxiliaries):
--429c Plato’s “definition” of ‘civic
courage’: “...the
power to preserve through everything its belief about what things are to be
feared, namely, that they are the things and the kinds of things that the
lawgiver declared to be such in the course of educating it.”
Clearly what he is speaking of here is not (at least not simply) what we
normally call courage (just as the wisdom he speaks of is not what that word
might normally connote). The
“virtue” he is speaking here he called “high-spiritedness” when using the guard
dog metaphor. What he has in mind
is more than “intestinal fortitude,” and at 430c the definition is said to apply
to something called “civic courage.”
As we shall see even more clearly in the next section, what Plato has in
mind here is not one of the appetites but, rather, a particular sort of
passion (or emotion).
--In her
The Therapy of Desire, Martha
Nussbaum helps us see what sort of thing is being discussed here when she says
that: “emotions” is the more common modern generic term, while “passions”
is both etymologically closer to the most common Greek and Latin terms and more
firmly entrenched in the Western philosophical tradition....what I mean to
designate by these terms is a genus of which experiences such as fear, love,
grief, anger, envy, jealousy, and other relatives—but not bodily appetites such
as hunger and thirst—are the species....This family of experience, which we call
emotions as opposed to appetites, is grouped together by many Greek thinkers,
beginning at least with Plato, and his account of the soul’s middle part.[12]
--In his
Varieties of Moral Personality, Owen
Flanagan maintains that the six basic emotions are:
anger, fear, disgust, happiness,
sadness, and surprise.[13]
-430d-e
Moderation “...a mastery of
certain kinds of pleasures and desires.”[14]
--431 Self-control and the rule
of the better part of the soul over the worse.
--431c-d Plato’s Socrates talks
of finding “...all kinds of diverse desires, pleasures, and pains, mostly in
children, women, household slaves, and in those of the inferior majority who are
called free.” He contrasts this
with “...the desires that are simple, measured, and directed by calculation in
accordance with understanding and correct belief [which are found] only in the
few people who are born with the best natures and receive the best education.”
In the ideal state,
“...the
desires of the inferior many are controlled by the wisdom and desires of the
superior few.”
--These passages suggest what I
will call the “aristocratic reading” of the text.
They suggest that the inferior
many are constitutionally incapable of self-control (and, thus, must have
control imposed externally upon them).
These passages should be contrasted with
518c: “...the
power to learn is present in everyone’s soul...the instrument with which each
learns is like an eye that cannot be turned around from darkness to light
without turning the whole body.”
The latter passage suggests what I will call the “democratic
reading” of the text which suggests that even the inferior many are
capable of self-control (though to be believable, this reading will have to
allow that it is unlikely that they can impose this self-control unless they
receive significant assistance).
Critically considering the text and trying to decide which reading is the right
one helps one understand the whole text better.
---Note, also,
that in this passage women are compared
with children and household slaves in terms of the role of the appetites in
their souls. Plato explicitly
takes up the role of women in his ideal state in a later section [451d-456c],
and a study of his remarks there shows that he explicitly allows that women
could be rulers (could do any of the jobs, trades, or crafts in the state).
The explicit argument he offers there seems to make this sort of passage
we are currently confronted with inexplicable, however, and we are left with an
interpretive problem: what is his
real view of [the capabilities of]
women?
--432 Moderation is a kind of
harmony and must infuse the whole state—all of the citizens must have a great
deal of this particular virtue!
-Justice:
-433 “Justice...is exactly what
we said must be established throughout the city when we were founding it....We
stated...that everyone must practice one of the occupations in the city for
which he is naturally best suited.”
--433e “...the power that
consists in everyone’s doing his own work rivals wisdom, moderation, and courage
in its contribution to the virtue of the city.”
--434 “...the
having and doing of one’s own would be accepted as justice.”
--Injustice and meddling (in
others’ tasks)—attempting to perform a task for which one is not naturally
suited.
--Philosophical
Aside: Plato’s view here implies that we each have
one
particular “job” which we are suited for.
Is this something he has successfully argued for?
What he says may make more sense when he speaks, below, about justice
in the individual.
But, according to him, what is true of justice in the individual is also
true of justice in the state (and vice-versa).
Thus, if we don’t accept that there is a single, particular, objective
job which uniquely suits each individual, we must reject some of what he says
here!
--Note:
In his “Plato’s Euthyphro,” Peter
Geach maintains that a “definition” may not be what we need: “the style of
mistaken thinking...may well be called the
Socratic fallacy, for its
locus classicus is the Socratic
dialogues. Its influence has, I
think, been greater than that of the theory of Forms; certainly people can fall
into it independently of any theory of Forms.
I have myself heard a philosopher refuse to allow that a proper name is a
word in a sentence unless a “rigorous definition” of ‘word’ could be produced;
again, if someone remarks that machines are certainly not even alive, still less
able to think and reason, he may be challenged to define ‘alive’.
Both these controversial moves are clear examples of the Socratic
fallacy; and neither originates from any belief in Forms.
Let us be clear that this is a
fallacy, and nothing better. It has
stimulated philosophical enquiry, but still it is a fallacy.
We know heaps of things without being able to define the terms in which
we express our knowledge. Formal
definitions are only one way of elucidating terms; a set of examples may in a
given case be more useful than a formal definition.”[15]
8. Justice in the
Individual [434d-445e]:
In this section Plato’s Socrates applies the picture which
he has developed of justice within the state to the individual soul.
He
proves that the soul has “parts,” and shows what the proper function of
the various parts amounts to.
434d Plato reminds us that one
reason for “describing” the ideal state was to “see justice writ large, so that
we might more easily recognize it in the soul: “we thought that, if we first
tried to observe justice in some larger thing that possessed it, this would make
it easier to observe in a single individual.
We agreed that this larger thing is a city, and so we established the
best city we could, knowing well that justice would be in one that was good.
So let’s apply what has come to light in the city to the individual....”
-Note the relevance of
this passage to the discussion of the “democratic” and “aristocratic” readings
of the Republic—one could contend
that he appears to emphasize here the importance of “justice in the
individual”—that it may be his “main target”—and that talk of “justice in the
state” may be more a means for discovering the former.
436b Plato does not
simply assume that, like the state, the soul (or
psyche) is composed of three parts,
however. Instead, he offers a
proof that there are at least three parts to the soul.[16]
“Do we learn with one part, get angry with another, and with some third
part desire the pleasures of food, drink, sex, and others that are closely akin
to them? Or, when we set out after
something, do we act with the whole of our soul, in each case?”
-436b
(1) “...the same thing will not be willing to do or undergo opposites in the
same part of itself, in relation to the same thing, at the same time.
So, if we ever find this happening in the soul, we’ll know that we aren’t
dealing with one thing but many.”
-437e-438d (2) There exist the
appetites (e.g., hunger and thirst),
and
(3) when we experience such
demands, we have a particular object in view and aim to attain it to satisfy the
appetite—the appetites have objects.
-438d (4) Similarly, when we know
we know something specific—knowledge has an object.
[1] The
citations are generally from Plato’s
Republic,
translated by G.M.A. Grube, revised by C.D.C.
Reeve (Indianapolis: Hackett, 1992).
Some of the passages are from the
unrevised translation by Grube and other are
from a number of other translations (as this
supplement has been developed over decades!
I concur with Reeve’s recommendation that
you wait to read the section of his
“Introduction” titled “The Main Argument of the
Republic
(pp. xiv-xviii) until after you have read the
full
Republic, but the initial portion of his
Introduction: (pp. viii-xiii) and his “Prefaces”
to each of the individual Books (I-X) are very
helpful.
The marginal page references in the text
refer to a collection of Plato’s works (Platonis
Opera [Paris: 1578]) edited by Henri
Stephanus—this edition’s pagination has become
the standard way of identifying and referring to
Plato.
Emphasis has been added to several of
passages.
One reservation I have with Reeve’s
Introduction, however, concerns his discussion
of what is called “The Seventh Letter” on p.
viii.
I believe recent scholarship has
established that it was not written by Plato—cf.,
Myles Burnyeat and Michael Frede,
The Peudo-Platonic
Seventh Letter, ed. Dominic Scott (Oxford:
Oxford U.P., 2011).
[2] As noted
by our translator and editor, the Greek word
here is
technē and it has connotations
similar to ‘science’ today.
The connotation carries the idea that the
craft-person would have a “special” sort of
knowledge.
[3] The
notion of “human
excellence,” or “virtue”
(the Greek word here is
arête),
is one that is difficult for us to initially
understand.
The notion here is not (simply) one of
“moral virtue,” since artifacts and ordinary
objects may have an “excellence.”
The “excellence” or “virtue” of a thing
(or individual) consists of that which enables
it to perform its
particular function well.
For example, the
arête
of a knife might be to cut well.
Note that this notion of “excellence”
presumes that things (or individuals) have
“functions” and assumes that they have a
particular (unique)
function.
Knives, for example, are used not only
for cutting but for spreading; and it is not
clear what the function of human beings is.
[4] Mark
McPherran, “Does Piety Pay?
Socrates and Plato on Prayer and
Sacrifice,” in
The Trial
and Execution of Socrates: Sources and
Controversies, eds. Thomas Brickhouse and
Nicholas Smith (N.Y.: Oxford U.P., 2002), pp.
162-190, p. 169.
The article originally appeared in
Reason
and Religion in Socratic Philosophy, eds.
Nicholas Smith and Paul Woodruff (N.Y.: Oxford
U.P., 2000), pp. 89-114.
[5] ‘Qua’
means “in so far as”—so a physician
qua
physician is one whom we speak of as a doctor
(rather than as a parent, driver, or
money-earner.
[6] The word
here is important, though the translation is a
problem.
C.D.C. Reeve indicates in a footnote to
his revision of Grube’s translation that ‘outdoes’
(or ‘overreaches’)
here means to “...outdo everyone else by getting
and having more and more.
Pleonexia is, or is the cause of
injustice (359c), since always wanting to outdo
others leads one to try to get what belongs to
them, what isn’t one’s own.
It is
contrasted with doing or having one’s own, which
is, or is the cause of, justice (343a, 441e).”
[7] An
intrinsically valuable goal, or activity, is one
that is pursued for its own sake.
Such values are contrasted with
extrinsic
values—here the goal or activity is valued for
what it will allow one to achieve.
Health, for example, might be
intrinsically valuable (good-in-itself), while
wealth is usually conceived of as extrinsically
valuable (good-for-what-it-can-get-us).
[8] While our
translator and editor use the word ‘city’, I
will use ‘state’ as it will be more natural for
us—we do not conceive of cities as
self-sufficient political unities, but clearly,
this is what is intended.
In this era of internationalism, perhaps
‘state’ does not carry the relevant connotation
completely either, but clearly Plato intends by
his term a self-sufficient political unity of
individuals.
[9]
Cf.,
C.D.C. Reeve’s “The Naked Old Women in the
Palastra: A Dialogue Between Plato and Lashenia
of Mantinea” in the 1992
Fall
Hackett Catalog (Indianapolis: Hackett,
1992).
Reprinted in
Plato’s
Republic: Critical Essays, edited by Richard
Kraut (Lanham: Rowman & Littlefield, 1997).
[10] The
Greek term
thymos (or
thumos) is used to indicate
“spiritedness.”
It is a passion or emotion rather than an
appetite.
It carries connotations which are not
found in any clear English term: for the Greeks
of Plato’s time (and before), it carries
connotations of
bravery,
the urge for glory, and of a spirited competitor.
For Plato the trait is both important and
dangerous.
The soul which is too filled with it can
not be a good one!
Hence he adds the “philosophical” (or
knowledgeable) trait.
He will elaborate on this character in
Books V-VII.
[11] Randy
Cohen in his “The Ethicist” column in
The New
York Times Magazine on
[12] Martha
Nussbaum,
The Therapy of Desire: Theory and Practice in
Hellenistic Ethics (Princeton: Princeton
U.P., 1994), p. 319.
[13]
Cf.,
Owen Flanagan,
Varieties
of Moral Personality: Ethics and Psychological
Realism (Cambridge: Harvard U.P., 1991), p.
41.
[14] As our
translator and editor note, the Greek word here
(sophrosune)
has a wide meaning carrying the connotations of
“...self-control, good sense, reasonableness,
temperance, and (in some contexts) chastity.
Someone who keeps his head under pressure
or temptation possesses
sophrosune.
[15] Peter
Geach, “Plato’s Euthyphro,”
The
Monist v. 50 (1966), pp. 369-382, p. 371.
[16] It
should go without saying, that one can not
assume that Plato’s concept of the soul (or
psyche)
is largely similar to the modern conception.
The religious conception of the soul in
the Jewish, Christian, and Islamic faiths is
influenced by Plato’s conception (rather than
the other way around).
Similarly, of course, one can not try and
analyze his conception along Freudian
lines—though, of course, Freud’s conception of
the
psyche is influenced by Plato’s.
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